How’d you like a nice Hawaiian (sucker) punch?

 

 

By Nellie Butterfield, staff writer

 

When Barack Obama presented a “genuine” digital long-form birth certificate, the (threatened) (1) media swallowed it hook, line, and sinker – even though glaring problems were identified (2) that day. Sheriff Arpaio’s March 1 presser (3) announced probable cause (and a criminal investigation) for forgery and fraud for that BC and Obama’s draft registration.  The media ignored (4) the evidence, like Charlie Brown refusing to notice that Lucy/Obama pulled the ball away leaving them belly-up. Now the media is again belly-up after swallowing a legally-worthless “verification”.

 Arizona  Secretary of State Ken Bennett gave the Hawaii Department of Health the suspected gender, date of birth, city and island of birth, father’s name, and mother’s name for Barack Obama on a form (5)requiring the HDOH to verify the true facts (6) of Obama’s birth. He also asked (7) them to verify some items “from the record” and to verify that a copy of Obama’s posted long-form is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file.

 The response (8) was very revealing:

 1.       It verified the existence of a birth certificate of unstated legal value. It did NOT verify the truth of any of the items from the form – including the 4 items necessary to determine Presidential eligibility. Those HAD to be verified if they matched a legally-valid record. Failure to verify an item means A) the “guess” doesn’t match what’s on the BC, or B)  the info matches but the BC itself is not legally valid. (See #3 below. The info matches, so HI is indirectly confirming that the BC is not legally valid).

 2.       The list of items that were to be verified as “from the record” had no description of what was exactly being verified about them, but the certifying statement said that information from the record on file was used to verify those items. IOW, this was a verification that those claims were on the birth record they have. Which means nothing if the birth record they have is not legally valid!

 3.  Instead of verifying that what Obama posted was a “true and accurate representation of the original record”, they verified that the information on it matched what was in the original record Why? The original could have additional info not in the posted BC – like LATE and ALTERED stamps and notation of affidavits filed to support the late, amended – and thus not legally valid (9) – filing. This fits (10) past words and actions of all HI’s officials – including allowing (11) non-valid records on their 1960-64 birth index. More links here (12).

 4.       The sucker punch: Between the certifying statement and Hawaii State Registrar Alvin Onaka’s stamped signature were / and initials other than Onaka’s. Those stamps are used at the direction of Onaka all the time, without initials. Why initials this time? Because a signature is only legally binding (13) if the person intended (14) to sign, and initials would allow Onaka to claim in court that he knew nothing about this. IOW, Onaka was “crossing his fingers” when this was “signed”.

 A nice Hawaiian sucker-punch, and the media is belly-up again.

 To contact your Congressional Representative use this link: http://www.contactingthecongress.org/

To read more use these links:    

 1)      http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/george-soros-threats-to-the-media-to-silence-them-on-eligibility.pdf

2)      http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7s9StxsFllY&feature=youtu.be

3)      http://www.westernjournalism.com/sheriff-joe-arpaio-obama-eligibility-investigation-results-live-stream/

4)      http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/07-03-2012/120708-arizona_sheriff_obama-0/

5)      http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf

6)      http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0014_0003.htm

7)      http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/ken_bennett_birther_hawaii_arizona_emails.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

8)      http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf

9)      http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017.htm

10)  http://www.butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/hi-non-verification-1.pdf

11)  http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/1960-64-birth-index-includes-legally-invalid-records/

12)  http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/important-updates/

13)  http://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/appellate-division-unpublished/2011/a1494-09-opn.html

14)  http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_signature_stamps_legal_for_use_in_signing_documents_and_checks

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39 thoughts on “How’d you like a nice Hawaiian (sucker) punch?”

  1. We'll never know the truth about this man. The best we can do is vote him out of the Office he is betraying.

    Remember all this in November.

  2. A question keeps popping up in my mind. IF this "person" gets reelected(GOD FORBID) and he survives a full term, will that set a precedence as far as "Eligibility" for qualifications to serve as the President of this once great nation? To say this is an election of GRAVE MATTERS is to say the least.

  3. I'm wondering if that's why all the foreign press people are doing all this research on BO's eligibility so they can import someone to run for his spot?

  4. Remarkable that Canada and Britain are the only nations doing any actual reporting on the AMERICAN president!!

  5. The sad part is Nellie is a woman of the church. Her husband is a reverend in Crete, Nebraska. The commandment that speaks to "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness" seems to be lost on her. Nellie seems to have no clue as to how much pain her unsubstantiated ramblings could cause to the families of Chiyome Fukino, Alvin Onaka and the other Hawaiian officials she libels on a daily basis. Nellie, you should take a step back, take a deep breath, and think long and hard about how you will answer to your maker one day.

  6. "Why initials this time? Because a signature is only legally binding (13) if the person intended (14) to sign, and initials would allow Onaka to claim in court that he knew nothing about this. IOW, Onaka was “crossing his fingers” when this was “signed”."

    Does that mean that the more recent DOH verification is legally valid since it contains both the signature and the initials of Dr. Onaka?

    1. Dr. Onaka has submitted a second Letter of Verification to Obama's Attorneys in Orly Taitz's ballot challenge to Obama in Mississippi. This second letter has Dr. Onaka's name and initials and the Hawai'i state Seal is embossed on the letter.
      The letter from Onaka can be viewed on the last page of te following document (page 12): http://www.scribd.com/doc/96289285/Mississippi-De

  7. Butteredzil….I mean, Nellie, your posts at Freepland are about as inaccurate as this blog post. Keep up the good work.

    1. Freep Hunter….uhm, your "handle" sounds as if you should be slaying Marxists… instead…you show up here when you learn that "Saint Obama" is being tarred and feathered…
      I cannot even admire or marvel at your loyalty to such a rotten president …for all the smoke, mirrors, and Communist smog in your rhetoric.
      Take a hike Bozo.

  8. Butterdezillion,

    So, do tell how

    a. A letter heded document
    b. From the HDoH
    c. As the Constitutionally legal custodian of vital records
    d. With the embossed seal of the department of vital records of said state
    e. With the signature of the Custodian of Records
    f. Initialed by said Custodian of Records
    g. Confirming in words a 5 year old can grasp that the record referenced exists
    h. Said records existence matches ALL details of the referenced online image
    i. Said letter being, according to the law of Hawai'i equal to a BC in its provenance and legally binding

    Is somehow magically not a legal document…?

  9. Just yesterday in a Free Republic post, Nellie Butterdezillion referred to Dr. Chiyome Fukino as, and excuse my language here, the "scummy Fukino."
    Nellie, that is abhorrent language. You claim to be a woman of the church! And the deep thinkers over at Free Republic actually applaud this woman's incoherent nonsense. That is how low the birthers have descended.

    Nellie Butterdezillion, "Dr." Ron Polland, Jerome Corsi, Joseph Farah, Mike Zullo – I am sorry these people are despicable and deserve nothing but scorn and derision.

    1. Gary these must be terrible times for you. You KNOW the whole Obama hoax is coming to an end. It’s over. People were fooled into electing an empty suit who never even ran a hot dog stand. No one – not even you- knows enogh about this guy to hire him to be a ticket taker at a movie house and yet you and your Party keep up the fight. Well in less than five month he’ll be a memory and we’ll be busy rebuilding our America after the damage Obama has done. It makes no difference now where he is from because we know where he is going and it’s not to a second term. Try loving America as much as you love Democrat attacks on American values.
      Thanks for reading CiR, Gar
      Coach

      1. It's your blog, Coach. If you want to allow Nellie Butterdezillion and other deluded bloggers to libel innocent folks who are just doing their jobs, that's your call and you'll live with it.

        A moral compass and a clear conscience are two American values.
        Where are yours, Coach?

        1. I don’t have any problem saying Obama is a fake so my compus points to victory and a restoration of America.
          You were fooled Gary. Admit it. Could YOU produce your birth certificate – a real one that generates no questions – in a heart beat? I’ll bet you could. Think about it. You can write all you or anybody else knows about this fake Obama in the space of comment box on CiR. Does that sound like he should be the president? Even the lies the Left told about George W. Bush ( National Guard lies college transcript lies etc) would fill more space. Until you started getting personal toward my writer I actually thought you had learned to behave yourself – maybe some “stand up” had rubbed off on your liberal mind I thought – but now I’m not sure.
          Coach

          1. Coach – If you want to slander the innocent folks at the Hawaii Dept of Health with unsubstantiated nonsense, go right ahead.
            You seem to have no problem with it.

          2. Ad hominems are an indirect admission of defeat. lol.

            If these people had anything to refute the claims made or the evidence offered, they wouldn't have to resort to attacking the messenger. AD hominems come from people who desperately want to change the subject.

          3. You don't offer evidence, Nellie, which has been pointed out to you time and time again. You offer conjecture, supposition, innuendo and ultimately, libel.

            And you seem to have no problem in smearing innocent people.

          4. Did Onaka verify that Obama was born on Aug 4, 1961, or did he not? Did he verify that Obama was male?

            By law, he was required to do so if he can say those are the legally-true facts of Obama's birth, as per HRS 338-14.3.

            If he didn't verify those facts as true, why didn't he do so as required by law?

            Try addressing that; that was supposed to be the subject here., which was sidetracked when you accused me of libel.

          5. Nellie — Dr. Onaka included this sentence in the verification:

            "Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files."

            No matter how spin it, twist it, or mutilate it – and I am sure you will – there it is. It could not be any clearer.

            Hawaiian officials are not commodities, Nellie, these are human beings. And you libel them in your blog and in other venues on a daily basis. Just stop for a second and realize the gravity of what you are doing.

          6. And if the record they have is a note in crayon on toilet paper making the same claims as on Obama's posted BC, Onaka would say the same thing when asked if the information on Obama's posted BC matches that.

            That is a totally different thing than Onaka saying "I verify that Barack Hussein Obama II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI on the island of Oahu to mother Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and Barack Hussein Obama." And what I just said is what Onaka was REQUIRED to say in the verification letter if they have a legally valid BC that makes those claims.

            My question – again – is this: Did Onaka verify those true birth facts as required by law if the record they have is legally valid? Yes or no? Show me where Onaka speaks a sentence that verifies each of those birth facts individually as being LEGALLY TRUE.

            If you can't or won't grasp this, then it is a waste of my time to converse with you.

            BTW, John 18:22-23

          7. The sentence I quoted above speaks for itself.

            What sort of statement from Dr. Onaka would satisfy you, Nellie? Let's hear it. If Dr. Onaka separated each birth fact from the birth certificate and addressed each one with a single sentence that included the words LEGALLY TRUE in capital letters, would that be enough?
            How far do you take this silliness?

            Just what in the world would satisfy you from the Hawaii Dept. of Health? I remind you again that these are human beings, human beings just like you, who have jobs to do and families to feed. Exactly what must they do to stop you from referring to them as, in your words, "scummy"?

          8. There is no need for insults. I have listened to your answers and have tried to understand you the best I can.

            You say:

            "I gave you, in quotes, what Onaka is required to say if he is verifying the birth facts that Bennett listed on the form:

            " I verify that Barack Hussein Obama II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961, in Honolulu, HI on the island of Oahu to mother Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama and father Barack Hussein Obama."

            Under what rule is Onaka "required" to word his verfication as per this quote?

      2. Well, Coach, denying him a second term now seems the only way to proceed. I was sad to see SCOTUS today denied a hearing to the appeal of the ruling against the challenge to Obama's eligibility brought by Allan Keyes and others. Where these "Justices" some are so keen on stand when it comes to the Constitution is plain: At least six of them stand to the far left.

  10. Waiting on a response Nellie to my earlier post, look, it's not an "ad-hominem" attack which is an irrelevant personal response in an attempt to divert an argument.

    So, do tell how

    a. A letter headed document
    b. From the HDoH
    c. As the Constitutionally legal custodian of vital records
    d. With the embossed seal of the department of vital records of said state
    e. With the signature of the Custodian of Records
    f. Initialed by said Custodian of Records
    g. Confirming in words a 5 year old can grasp that the record referenced exists
    h. Said records existence matches ALL details of the referenced online image
    i. Said letter being, according to the law of Hawai'i equal to a BC in its provenance and legally binding

    Is somehow magically not a legal document…?

    1. If you're talking about the verification for the MDEC, I challenge you to find anyplace where I've said that is not a legal document.

      It is a legal document. It verifies that they have a birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama II and that the birth facts claimed on Obama's posted long-form BC match the birth facts claimed on the birth certificate on file at the HDOH.

      It says nothing about the legal validity of the record on file. If the birth record they have on file is a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth that uses comments written on bubblegum wrappers for evidence of the claims – Onaka would STILL have to say that a record exists and that the claims on Obama's posted longform match the claims on the record they've got.

      This MDEC request would never even tell us if the BC they've got is written on toilet paper and totally worthless.

      Onaka's response to Bennett, though – if Onaka doesn't refute its genuineness – indirectly confirms that the birth record they've got is NOT legally valid. Unless Bennett violated the law by not verifying what he was required to verify. Is that what you folks are claiming Onaka did?

      1. “It is a legal document. It verifies that they have a birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama II and that the birth facts claimed on Obama’s posted long-form BC match the birth facts claimed on the birth certificate on file at the HDOH.”
        __

        I’m happy to hear you say that. It means that all the arguments about the COLB, the LFBC, and the PDF are now meaningless, since the only purpose of those documents is to attest to what’s in the State of Hawaii’s official records.

        Now that you’ve conceded that Hawaii’s official records say just what the President has been claiming all along, the only battle remaining is between you and the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution.

        Good luck!

        1. Arthur B.. Just like a damn Marxist….you read or hear only what you want to read or hear….not what is written. In vintage Progressive Communist form you deliberately ignored "Butters" third paragraph…and take comments OUT of context..
          No wonder decent people hate you folks so much !!

  11. Butter,

    First you say it's a legal document then you say it's NOT a legal document, it's one or the other. which is it..?

    The HDoH has stated in a legally self authenticating, Constitutionally legal form that that there is a BC on file for the President and all the details are accurate and all the details in the vault match those on the image published on the internet.

    There are no caveats, no wriggling, no obfuscation.

    So, how is this not a legal document, directly referencing and confirning all the facts around a legally binding BC..?

  12. Coach — Please assign staff writer Nellie Butterfield another birther story real soon. She is fascinating, and a very entertaining read.

    1. Gary
      As I have written after all the clear evidence that has been ignored anyone not a birther is eithera fool a liar or a coward. Do you realy really believe this guy was born in Hawaii? That is like theConeheadssaying “Wearefrom France” in a robotic voice. Thefact that a every court has shied away from ruling honestly means nothing. Besides I TOLD you before you must refute the easy to see flaws in his phoney birth certificate point by point. General slurs from jackasses will not be allowed. Find us the POINT BY POINT Youtube showing that this point is wrong and that point is werong give up the link and lert us judge for ourselves. But of course you can’t do that because there is no such youtube. Citing judgeswhoi are too frightened to rule honestly means about as much as the Dept od Labor’s phoney statistics.
      Go away and come back with proof NOT phoney judgements from phony judges.
      You are welcome to comment on anything else you think is meaningful but as we do here, bring the proof My Friend.
      Thank you for reading CiR,
      Coach

  13. To both Gary Miller and Trevor B….I want to know why you have dogs in this hunt !
    What's it to either of you chuckle-heads that a conservative web-site chooses to run articles unfavorable to your personal savior, Obama???
    Don't dare to further insult our intelligence by saying that you only seek "the truth", as both of you creeps only show up here when something negative is said about the "provenance" of the "Liar-in-Chief"…and neither of you would recognize the truth if it bit you on your collectivist fannies.
    Go "pick nits" somewhere else, as all of us here are sick to death of both your fraudulent caviling and obsequious behavior on behalf of that mindless "Borg" in the Oval Office.
    No one here is going to change anything….no subject matter, and no comments…to make either of you twits feel you've accomplished some sort of a mission here…that makes you both a waste of comment space.

  14. Joanne — What's your favorite part of the essay and exchange above? Nellie's sentence that states the Hawaii verfication is "legally-worthless" or her comment challenging Trevor to "find anyplace where I've said that is not a legal document." Nellie ran away before telling us it was a legally-worthless legal document.

    Birtherism is an illness, and is a clear blight on conservatism. After nearly 4 years and 130 court cases (none victorious for the birthers), after birthers have been unable to supply one shred of evidence that President Obama was born anyplace but Hawaii, after every media outlet in the world except for World Net Daily has dismissed this nonsense, there is still a fringe that believes that President Obama is ineligible to hold the office.

    These people deserve nothing but scorn.

    1. TO Gary Miller….Damned if I'll make a selection based from YOUR limited menu !!
      Nellie did NOT run away and you have STILL failed to convince anyone here that you are anything but an annoying Obama loyalist doing "spin control".
      We don't like Obama here…ergo we don't like those who continually lie, cheat, and skew others' words while "carrying his water".
      What the hell would YOU know what is, or is not "a clear blight on conservatism"???
      You're not a conservative now, and you never HAVE been, or you wouldn't be speaking with such stupidity and duplicity as you have been.
      Clearly you are out of your depth here….you need to locate a site where sheep are plentiful.
      Call me a "Birther, or a "fringer"….hell, call me any name you choose….Your opinion of me doesn't matter in the least.. as you and I have nothing in common, no shared values, and obviously I dislike you and your opinions.
      Scorn from an avowed Obama supporter….ooh wow….how pathetic is THAT!

      1. Nellie ran away, Joanne. She is unable to back up her doubletalk. She
        has smeared and libelled the innocent folks at the Hawaii Dept. of Health who are just doing their jobs. You and the Coach seem to have no problem with libel. I think it’s despicable.

        1. To trevor and gary miller : You two 'jablonies' have no right to ask me anything…I owe you nothing…not even respect…not even the time of day.
          You are both Marxist goons and you're BOTH despicable…take a hike.

          1. Waaaaaaaaah someobody call the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmbulance.

            Joanne, it's real simple, Butter and her asinine talk of how the HDoH has "indirectly confirmed" her delusions is exactly that, delusional.

            The BC has a line at the bottom stating that the document "serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceedings".

            The HDoH conformed ALL the details in the BC which includes that statement, so guess what the CONFIRMED it is good and BZ is delusional.

  15. So, Joanne,

    Do tell why you are carrying water for the likes of Jerome Corsi and Joe Farah, Orly Taitz and the rest of the ilk whose only interest is the perrenial crying out for yet more money. All whilst not ACTUALLY delivering on a single one of their promises?

    I mean, over 140 failed cases down the pipe later and it's always ANY….DAY….NOW…..now just donate, hit the PayPal etc.

    Don't you find it in the least curious that someone like Larry Klayman, the current birther lawyer de-jour, after begging for money to press his case in Florida and after pleading poverty, as a dead beat father with over $78,000 in back child support, suddenly and miraculously finds the money to discharge that debt in April….just after taking up begging for bucks?

    Now, my momma was quite sharp in telling me the whole "Fool me once….Fool me twice" mantra,. what does it say when it's still falling for it after ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY TIMES….?

  16. All of the fraud obama's supporters are now realizing the house of cards is coming down or should I say the house of lies . The fraud obama is going down and there is nothing the Obots or liberals can do about it but lie and try to change the subject .

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