Did anyone expect to hear from “Hanoi” Jane Fonda again? Of course, in order to slink away from society and retire to a cave, Fonda would have to leave the fawning press and the liberals who think of her as an icon. It may have happened too long ago to remember what this “Woman of the Century” did to prisoners in North Vietnam’s Hanoi Hilton. But some of us who were there will never forget and never let others forget. Jane Fonda was and is a traitor to this country. Unfortunately, those born in the 70’s and later don’t know and it is a safe bet that our educational system will not mention it.
For those who don’t remember or who do not know, the burden that this woman put on our fighting men during Vietnam began the downfall of the American psyche. In some sense we have not recovered from that pivotal moment in our nation’s military history.
This “peace activist” as Fonda was called at the time, visited the Hanoi Hilton and saw prisoners like Jerry Driscoll-later the Commandant of the USAF survival school-beaten and clubbed with a wooden baton by the prison commandant.
The families of the men in the Hanoi Hilton did not know if their loved ones were alive or dead. They only knew that husbands, sons, brothers and fathers were “missing in action.” During her visit the prisoners developed a plan of passing their Social Security numbers to Fonda on little slips of paper. They did this as Fonda asked them questions like “aren’t you sorry you bombed babies?” and “aren’t you grateful for the humane treatment you receive.” After the cameras stopped rolling and the ceremony was over, Fonda handed all the little slips of paper to the camp commandant. Three men died as a result of her unforgivable treachery.
“Late Show” host Stephen Colbert called Fonda an “icon of [her] generation.” Does Colbert not know the history of this traitorous woman, or does he not care? Does he think the fact that she married a wealthy man and started a business that is doing well is all that matters? It certainly doesn’t mitigate against all she has done, least of all the brainless betrayal of desperate prisoners who lost their lives because they put their trust in a “fellow American.”
Fonda now says that she was wrong in Vietnam and that she is sorry. But her apology does not make a difference. Those men are gone, their families still grieve and there are some of us who will never forget or forgive.
Jane Fonda should have faced a charge of treason. Upon conviction her life should have been forfeit for the betrayal which cost the lives of American prisoners. At least, my fellow warriors and I can take solace in the knowledge that Fonda will burn in Hell for the evil she has done.
By Blake Neff Commentary by John Velisek USN (Ret), staff writer
“An essay published in Newsweek, The Washington Spectator and at least one other website argues that a flag honoring U.S. troops who have been captured or gone missing is actually ‘racist’ and deserves to be treated with the same hostility as the Confederate flag.
‘You know that racist flag?’ writes Rick Perlstein. ‘The one that supposedly honors history but actually spreads a pernicious myth? And is useful only to venal right-wing politicians who wish to exploit hatred by calling it heritage? It’s past time to pull it down.’
No, Perlstein isn’t talking about the Confederate flag, but actually the POW/MIA flag, which can be seen at countless veterans’ events and outside the offices of many congressmen.
The problem lies with the flag’s origins. ‘Missing in action’ soldiers, Perlstein says, were simply invented out of thin air by Richard Nixon in an effort to ‘justify the carnage in Vietnam in a way that rendered the United States as its sole victim.’
Perlstein expresses outrage at Nixon’s administration for inaugurating a ‘newly invented’ missing-in-action category to describe pilots who were shot down and never had their bodies recovered. Perlstein seems to imply that Nixon invented the idea of ‘missing’ soldiers out of whole cloth, though this is quite untrue. Soldiers have been going missing for as long as wars have been fought, and official ‘missing’ classifications were famously applied to thousands of soldiers in both world wars whose fates were impossible to determine.
Whatever the origins of the term itself, Perlstein says the flag is obviously racist, because, well, it implies that being a POW under the North Vietnamese was bad:
‘The moral confusion was abetted by the flag: the barbed-wire misery of that stark white figure, emblazoned in black.’
‘That damned flag: It’s a shroud. It smothers the complexity, the
reality, of what really happened in Vietnam,’ says Perlstein. ‘We’ve come to our senses about that other banner of lies. It’s time to do the same with this.’ ”
My Opinion: This really is the definition of idiocy. What were we supposed to do, throw flowers while the North Vietnamese were trying to kill us? No, war is often not good. Even an idiot can tell you that. A Kool Aid guzzling nut like author Perlstein has plenty of time to empathize with the enemy. Soldiers actually fighting the war do not.
Do you think the North Vietnamese have a memorial for all of the Americans they killed? This is just too much. Were you there, Mr. Perlstein? Do you know what it was like? Being a prisoner of the North Vietnamese was not a picnic you fool. If you want to pat their heads and tell them you’re sorry, by all means make the trip and do so. And while you are there, STAY THERE.
As usual the far left is trying to direct the thoughts of the American people in what people like Perlstein consider an acceptable and appropriate direction—acceptable to the left, that is. And anyone who might disagree is labeled RACIST.
Such is the left’s definition of freedom: Everyone is FREE…to agree with them.
Did Richard Nixon pardon John “Songbird” McCain of charges as serious as treason and did our defunct mainstream media hide this horrific side of a man who would have been our president in 2008, save only for a Black being on the ticket? What is the truth here? “Colonel Ted Guy was preparing criminal charges against John McCain when Nixon took Admiral McCain’s little boy under his wing. Where are McCain’s 32 propaganda tapes that were made during Vietnam and broadcast over the radio to US troops?” asks Gordon Duff, a disabled, Marine combat veteran of Vietnam writing about the McCain story. Duff is a longtime activist for veterans and POW issues.
Here is an anonymous writer, an active Marine in ’08, who claims to know of and tells the “True Military Record of John McCain.” For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.
‘McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat,’ explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs-the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. “As McCain got 28 medals, Bell continues, that equals out to nearly a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys-grunts on the ground-who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I’m sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison.”
Now the fire on the Aircraft Carrier, USS Forrestal bodes even more controversy. One blogger felt that McCain acted admirably when the fire on deck broke out, and the reason for the horrific explosion was the decision made to load WWII bombs on board which were unequipped with a fire preventive outer coating.
However, “He (McCain) did a smart ass punk attention getting trick by doing a ‘wet start’ up of his jet. . .when a pilot wants to be a wise ass or show off, this type of engine start creates a large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on start-up…this was no accident.”
The fierce electrical surge caused the launching of a powerful Zuni rocket across the carrier’s deck hitting other parked planes that were packing 1,000 pound, high-explosive bombs that caused the huge explosion and nearly sank this 82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier. “This stunt and aftermath caused the death of 134 sailors.”
What is the real truth about the Forrestal fire? One blogger
compares the Navy’s harsh atmosphere of discipline and strict adherence to rules and regs to that of a Navy pilot being blamed for whatever happens, even if a meteorite fell from outer space next to his plane. However, this harsh and unyielding Navy code may have applied to everyone but McCain, the commander’s son. “Trump is correct when he says McCain is NOT A HERO.”
The issue of McCain’s “Tokyo Rose” type, wartime broadcasts into U.S. POW compounds, to me, is the most upsetting. My students
came into classrooms right after getting off of planes at O’Hare Airport where they were SPIT UPON by leftist, anti-war cultists fired up by the Bill Ayres crew of America Bad, “Hell No, We Won’t Go” rhetoric. Being able to wait out the war in my classroom and that of my University of Chicago colleagues was the ticket to march along Michigan Avenue. The Vietnam soldiers who didn’t have rich fathers, who couldn’t score a high lottery number, who simply didn’t want to go to college were the country’s unlucky ones. “You’re playing with my future,” one rich son blurted out to me one day when I flunked his English paper.
Many of these returning veterans were extremely stressed out, back when PTSD was not a diagnosis. “Read a book,” I said in exasperation to one of them who couldn’t understand what I meant when I assigned a book review, not a book report. A book was the farthest thing from their minds, but a bomb still exploded in their heads and I, as a young teacher, had not the slightest comprehension of what they had experienced.
And here we have a media, a country calling John Sidney McCain a war hero even as unexplained issues and gross misconduct are finally coming to the surface. Even so, during the recent Donald Trump media frenzy not one alphabet cable news flapper even broached these topics. “During McCain’s time in the US Senate, when it was known that American POWs were still being held in Southeast Asia, McCain worked to block repatriation though evidence of surviving POWs was overwhelming.” Is this true? Why would it be so difficult for some reporter, some editor with corporate support to dig a little deeper, to ask McCain himself, to research Vietnam archives, to ask the question: “Did you, Senator, suppress information about missing Americans, about our MIAs left behind?”
My favorite novel is Joseph Conrad’s HEART OF DARKNESS. As Kurtz unfolds the darkness in his own heart, the metaphor of the heart’s jungle deepening becomes ever more dangerous, threatening, surreal, evil. Did the evil of Vietnam forever blacken the heart of America? “What kind of nation would elect, again and again, criminals and degenerates to high office, each designated as the “leader of the free world?” Here is one commenter: “I have spoken with a number of senior pilots from all services about McCain, a number of whom served with him. To a man, they detest him. They don’t generally go into details, but most of it stems from what a pampered ass he was till his dad said, ‘Shut Up and Color.‘”
I feel so much regret now that as a very young instructor I did not understand my Vietnam students, that I treated them like all the rest of the undergrads, that I stayed in meetings when those who didn’t get sent over, berated them. I hurt now because of academia’s disgraceful treatment of the vets from Nam. The academics considered themselves superior because they and their students qualified for collegiate deferment! Donald Trump’s new hotline: 855-VETS-352 email@example.com DT: “The way veterans are being treated in this country is a disgrace.”
What could Donald Trump have been thinking when he said John McCain was not a war hero? Certainly he must have known it would lead to the end of a political career – but the question now is: Whose political career?
The media – even the putatively conservative New York Post – is gleefully saying, “Trump is toast after insult: ‘McCain not a war hero’ Don Voyage!”
Is this true; or is this media wishful thinking so they can go back to telling us how wonderful Jeb Bush is? Wishful thinking is a dangerous thing in all walks of life especially the media.
Trump has been very successful by hiring the right people to work for him in whatever he does which now includes politics.
The right people for Trump to hire to be successful in his political battles are any of the dozens of highly skilled opposition researchers from across the country. “Opo” researchers are the ones who supply the material for the political bombs that blow up the other side. Rest assured that Trump has hired the best Opo Team money can buy; and they have given Trump the material to break John McCain in half.
What follows is an article that was pulled out in about 35 seconds. It was most certainly part of an Opo report produced on John McCain.
Was Trump’s remark about McCain a misstep or a trap? You decide because the media will soon be working overtime to backtrack and make this go away without further examination.
“Fellow POW’s say John McCain Was a Coward and a Traitor in Viet Nam.”
“I remember some weeks ago John McCain was having a cow that the NY Times was going to print an article and a battle ensued. No mention was ever made as to why McCain was actually begging and threatening the NY Times over this article. No further mention [h]as been made about (this is a reference to the author’s personal website) this article and I wonder if this bitter fight that took place according to the editor of the NY Times wasn’t because of the information contained in the video’s [videos] below.”
You decide: Is it Trump who has to dread tomorrow or is it John McCain that might not want to get out of bed these days?
“John McCain has stood in the way of many a family, loved one and groups from getting our MIA’s and POW’s back. Even though they have more than enough proof that there were over a 100 POW’s that were still being held and sent to other country’s [counties]. These groups and families point out that John McCain himself is stopping them from getting our fellow countrymen home.”
“Fellow POW’s are sure the reason is he was a coward and a traitor as a POW in Viet Nam and it would ruin his political career if this were ever to find its way to the main stream media. They have put together eye witness accounts that describe McCain’s traitorous actions during his time as a prisoner in Viet Nam by his fellow prisoners. Former Senators, Governors and political records flat out nail John McCain as a scared little man on the run from a history of lies and deceit.”
McCain a Coward and Traitor say Former POWs
McCain Betrayed POWs and MIAs
N.B. This stuff CAN be dug out and Trump’s researchers will dig it out.
I read through the New York Times this morning and since today is the 40th anniversary of the Fall of Saigon, they had several opinion pieces discussing the fallacy of America’s involvement in Vietnam, the terrible lessons of the misuse of American power, the atrocities “committed routinely” by us, etc.,etc..
May I throw the BS flag onto the field? We had an ally in trouble, we had the entire Communist Bloc supplying the Vietcong insurgents, we had the North Vietnamese Army in the south and whole world was watching to see what we’d do. If you peruse a map of the area, you’ll see that it was part of the world the Communists really wanted to control. The Straits of Malacca are close by and anyone controlling the ports in Vietnam would have the ability to choke off oil and other supplies to our other allies; Japan, South Korea, the Philippines. It wasn’t an insignificant area in geopolitics.
The young men who answered the call – or just served honorably when they were drafted – were some of the best young men we have ever fielded. We were well acquainted with the savagery of the enemy to the local villagers and it was emphasized to us over and over that the villagers were the focus of our war, the reason we were there. I distinctly remember what it was like to approach a new village that hadn’t dealt with Marines before. At first, nobody was visible and if we stopped there, eventually some kids would come out of hiding. We’d give them some of the hard tropical chocolate discs from our C-rations and maybe some other treats. Then the old people would come out and they’d see that we were playing with the kids and weren’t interested in killing their animals or taking anything from them.
The next time we’d go through that village, we’d be welcomed with smiles and sometimes even warned where the mines were. The Marine Corps even instituted a program called the Combined Action Program (CAP) where an incredibly brave squad of Marines and a Corpsman would actually live in those villages full time to train them to protect themselves.
I will always be proud of my time in Vietnam and of the men who served there with me. The war had vicious enemies to fight, nice people to protect and real reasons to be there. The New York Times writers can say what they want to, but if the United States hadn’t fought for South Vietnam for those eight long, hard years how would the world have looked at us? Sure, we lost but it was only after a long struggle that stalled and drained the Communist Bloc and in the end, there weren’t anymore “National Liberation Wars” and the Cold War came to an end soon after. We showed a steel in us that our adversaries didn’t think we had and in the end that was what the Communists saw in us when Reagan took office. Our sacrifices were not in vain. Our war was a good war, no matter what the New York Times wants to print.